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-- learn the national debt has increased by 50% in president obama's first term, there are growing concerns about a white house request to eliminate one of the few tools congress has to keep government spending in check. >>> and a new report raising serious questions about how taxpayer money's being spent including claims that it helped folks attend a training course that looked like something straight out of the walking dead. [gunfire] [ loud party sounds ] hi, i'm ensure clear... clear, huh? i'm not juice or fancy water. i've gotine grams of protein. that's three times more than me! [ female announcer ] ensure clear. nine grams protein. zero fat. in blueberry/pomegranate and peach. now is a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs and your budget? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they cover some of what medicare
obama on the debt ceil ing. >> the problem is, the way bush has done it over the last eight years, to take out a credit card from the bang of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents, number 43, he added $4 trillion by his lonesome, and now we have over $9 trillion of debt. and we will have to pay it back $30,000 for every man, woman and child. that sir responsible. it is unpatriotic. >>eric: so it was unpatriotic and now, he wants us to believe it is bad to have a limit on the credit card. >>guest: the $30,000 is now $50,000 for every man, woman, and child. he failed to point that out. that is the absolute height of hypocrisy. would you give someone who has maxed out every credit card they own more unlimited credit? that is what the president is asking for. it is simply ridiculous and nauseating to people who have to be responsible with their finances. it is hypocrisy. >>eric: you, herman cain. >> did you notice my casual look today? >>eric: love it. love it. great to see you. >> did you catch this last night? >>
. right? it's not complicated. president obama, we've got this big debt crisis. president obama, two things -- number 1, months ago, he put out a detailed plan. it's in print, and it's online, of how to resolve this fiscal crisis. no. 2, the republicans said we are not going to deal with it. we will take seven weeks off. we will have an election and let the people decide. president obama went out in front of the american people. there was one issue, the central issue. it wasn't the war in iraq iran's nuclear possibility of iran getting nuclear weapons it wasn't peace in the middle east. it wasn't immigration reform. the number 1 was issue was president obama said very clear, we want the wealthiest two percents of americans to pay more in tax after having 12 years of a special tax break, which was only supposed to be temporary. if you say yes vote for me. mitt romney says, no, we are going to caudle, protect that top 2%. we are not going to raise their taxes. so if you say no, vote for me. that was a choice. the american people overwhelmingly, overwhelmi
. president obama's first offer fiscal cliff, higher taxes, new spending and power over the debt spending. and offered by tim geithner who had tax problems in the past and today president obama is it at a toy factory campaigning for new taxes on the rich. and joining us is julia. >> hi. stuart: how are you. >> i'm great. stuart: i can't believe that you, as a regular american, want to do this to america, do you? >> i think it's because-- i don't think that this is exactly what what's going to happen. stuart: you don't think that the president will actually do this. >> no, no, i think the president has learned to negotiate. what the president would do, he would start with sort of half a loaf and negotiate and give the republicans about 75% of what they wanted. i think he's finally understood if you want to actually get to at least halfway, you have to start at extremes and meet halfway. republicans have done this all along. stuart: you agree with me, if this plan, anything like it from the president, were imposed on the economy at this time it would lead to recession. >> i think that the p
just on principle but he is right. this is a rounding error when it comes to the national debt. we are talking about a 16 trillion debt. this is it a rounding error. one way to reduce the national debt which is a combination of spending cuts and revenue increases. obama put on the table t trillion in spending cuts and we'll find another trillion in revenue increases and every economist is unanimous. that the way of increasing revenue is going after the top two percent. >> well, i don't know. wayne, i heard lot of ideas about sphending coming out. >> julian, you need to run for public office. you are the perfect kind of guy that thinks of million of dollars is a rounding error. that's what congress thinks. you can run and so you can steal from the public like they do. >> it is it wayne let me respond. it i it a rhetorical game you played there. but in reality if you have the biggest largest lottery that the world has known, you will not make a slightest dent in the debt. >> who cares. when you get out of the chair and walk to the door you have to start somewhere. every bit counts. i
obama. i came away from those meetings feeling that these guys really were serious about the debt. they were serious about reducing the deficit and the need to get on with it and had some sense of urgency. they were serious about raising revenue from higher income tax payers, and that includes raising rates, with some flexibility there. they were serious about reducing spending and i would say to you wall, you have written a lot about the tax side of the equation. we need to read more about the spending side of the equation. they are equally important if we are going to get a balanced plan. they're serious about reducing spending -- that would include reducing spending on health care entitlements. they're serious about protecting a class -- you can really feel the president's passion on that. they were serious about restoring confidence in the short and long term so our economy can grow and create jobs. i think the president has always been for a balanced approach come as alan and i have. our message to the president and the congress from day one has been the same -- that is the p
.s. debt limit. senator mcconnell is demanding 60 senate votes for passage. president obama pushed for the power transfer in a most recent and main proposal last week on the fiscal cliff. >>> now no john mcafee. the millionaire software guru wanted in questioning in the neighbor's murder in belize. maybe you heard mcafee. got arrested in guatemala overnight. shouldn't come as much of a surprise here. the whole time supposedly on the run, he was handing out tv interviews like candy. but listen to this. now the mcafee is in jail, he is blogging from behind bars. the story just keeps getting more interesting, shall we say? more on the blogging here in a moment. but first, i have to play you this video. this is the video of his arrest. surprise-surprise. he was with a camera crew from vice.com when guatemalan police took him in. the charge, entering that country illegally. take a look here. exclusive video of vice.com. >> they're trying to arrest me. guatemalan jails have beds. >> john, where are you going? >> to jail. >> when will you be out? >> and off he goes. to think, just yesterd
the advice. connell: just make these debt talks into a home reality show. get out, you are fired. we will talk to neil cavuto about that. and the idea of putting president obama and john boehner on tv together and televising the debt talks. lori: microsoft's efforts is all coming down to the price tag. we will show you some interest rates as we head to break. 164 on the ten year. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is amy. amy likes to invest in the market. she also likes to ride her bike. she knows the potential for mang or losing money can pop up anytime. that's why she trades with the leader in mobile trading. so she's always ready to take action, no matter how wily... or weird... or wonderfully the market's behaving... which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritre. >> i have your fox business brief. manufacturing activity unexpectedly contracted last month falling to its lowest level in three years. it fell to 49.5. larger than expected drop. on the flip side, you as builders boosted their construction spending in october by their largest about sids may. it rose ne
majo v that i argument. it is long past time to get rid of the debt ceiling and the modified mcconnell/obama plan is as good a way as any to do it. it gives lawmakers a way it avoid a fiscal cliff or fiscal curve. it can end flirtations with fiscal suicide. that the last word. i'm ezra klein in for ed o'donnell. >>> the president has returned from his trip. chris matthews and "hardball" is next. >>> a no-brainer for boehner. let's play "hardball." ♪ good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me the start tonight with this. somebody has got to break it to mr. boehner, your side lost. romney, remember him? he's the guy who ran on the rich man's platform. the hands off the big boys' ticket. he's the guy who said his fellow 2%ers have your back. mr. boehner, ye of limited memory, the voters looked this issue directly in the eye, they heard your guy, romney, playing palace guard for the plutocrats, and they said i think i'll vote for the guy who is looking out for the middle class. i think i will let that guy go back to bain or whatever. time for mr. boehner to stop protecting the rich
question. that is with the president's health care plans, with obama care, does that change the debt to gdp in terms of taxes going up? >> it makes it worse. >> it's already going up. >> the affordable care act expanded cover an to 36 million people. it did not do enough to control costs. there are positive aspects of it, but according to the chief actuary of medicare, it's estimated to cost $12 trillion more in discount of present value dollars today than the politicians claim. we have not come nearly close enough to rationalizing our health care promises and focus on paying based on outcomes rather than activities. we're going to have to go back to health care again. and one of the biggest challenges, it's totally inadequate with regard to health care. and if you don't solve the health care problem, you don't solve the problem. >>> first, it's the season for pizza, the hustle and bustle of the holidays means more business for dominoes and that means more jobs. your local domino sess expected to hire a few extra people this year. that can mean 5 to 25,000 jobs spread out over 4,500 stores
president obama's proposal which includes a $1.6 trillion tax increase, a $50 billion economic stimulus package and new power to increase the debt ceiling without congressional approval. the offer featured higher tax rates for households making over $250,000 a year. a one year postponement of the sequester and about $400 billion in savings over ten years for medicare and other entitlement programs. >> despite the claims that the president supports a -- >> thousand is the time fnow is republicans to move past the happy talk about revenues, ill defined, of course, and put specifics on the table. the president has made his proposal. we need a proposal from them. >> today president obama is taking his pitch on the road. he will be visiting the philadelphia suburbs employing campaign style tactics in hopes of mobilizing the public to his side. he'll be speaking at a manufacturing facility arguing that businesses it depend on middle class consumers over the holiday season. despite all this, you see the futures today indicating higher. dow up by about 35. does that surprise you guys? >> no, i
that entity, blame, blame, blame. if i look at the first administration of president barack obama, there was a lot of inherentiiting of debt. i'm not saying i agree or disagree. there's many that believe blaming someone else is just a way to shirk leadership. i'll tell you what. here's the problem with the blame game. when blame becomes an issue, it takes the empathy out. it takes the civility out and it green lights sustaining dysfunctional patterns. i'll give you an example. once you start blaming for example, let's take grover norquist. he's good target. once you start blaming grover norquist for a pledge made to get elected by representatives, you are totally doing a bait and switch. all of a sudden the issue of entitlementsbowles. why? they will look straight in the camera and say the gorilla in the room, entitlements. but when the blame game happens and you basically do bait and switch, you create a red herring. in this case, the red herring, and it is red, are tax issues. or taxing the rich even though the real issue you're avoiding, the big one, are the entitlements and th
. it has a spending problem. under this administration under president obama we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate and yet he keeps demanding that we raise taxes -- >> those are some of the republican leadership in the house as you can see responding to the white house's response to their counteroffer of a couple days ago as a reminder the president is going to speak to the business roundtable at 10:50 this morning. we think he'll take some questions even as gop leadership is meeting with small businesses as negotiations or lack thereof over the fiscal cliff continue. >> did you see that the nbc white house team is reporting the belief that perhaps the republicans don't have the fight in them anymore to really dig in now on the concessions on the way which is good news if you don't want to go over the fiscal cliff but they are dispelling the real argument for later on. >> fuel line inspections being ordered for boeing 787 dreamliner. phil lebeau has more on this story. >> a rough day yesterday if you are tracking what's happening with the dreamliner. one of two importa
republicans will reach an agreement but 43% say they won't. meantime, president obama is giving a stern warning to republicans who may be trying to use the debt ceiling as leverage. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> we should say that the president and house speaker john boehner did speak by phone yesterday. that was the first time in a week. no one is saying what the conversation was about. shortly after that call treasury secretary tim geithner went on cnbc and said the white house is ready to go off the cliff. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in. >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest. it's only 2%. >> i want to bring in "usa today" bureau chief and welcome to both of you. where ar
obama plane taxman. how much higher? we will how you what some suspect about the math in d.c. in the "chalk talk" next. ♪ lou: we have a national debt net of $16 trillion. we want to do a little something in that "chalk talk" tonight to bring some simple math home, primarily for the benefit of those we elected to represent us in washington d.c. and if cbo, a congressional budget office projections are right, that 16 will be a trillion dollars higher next year. if the fiscal cliff is avoided, the federal government is expected to spend, let's do it this way, over three and a half trillion dollars. that's a lot of money, especially since they are only collecting to one-half in revenue and taxes. that leaves us with the deficit of one. that is the deficit. sizable it is. this will be the president's fourth for which he is personally responsible, fourth decit in excess of a trillion dollars. president obama wants to plug that trillion dollars hole by raising taxes on household incomes, as we all know that have incomes over $250,000. the top 2%. that would bring in $802 millio
president obama than the one we saw during the debt ceiling negotiations or even after the midterm elections in 2010 when he felt a little weakened and there was the extension of those bush tax cuts for the wealthy. so i think when you're seeing here is a president who put this on the table, trying to please his base, okay? which got him elected after all. saying, this is my wish list, this is in a perfect world, this is what i would do. i don't think anyone at the white house expected the republicans to say, oh, thank you mr. president, yes, this looks lovely. let's go on and work on a deal. no, that's not what it was. the white house -- this is alfonse gaston a little bit here. and so they're waiting for the republican response. and what they're really talking about, brooke, is getting some kind of a first step. a down payment. ironically they all know what -- in the big picture needs to be done. they know you have to fix entitlements, do something on the tax side, but they're trying to figure out how to get from here to there. >> and let's just stop there, because let's say the white hous
have to love that it is friday. i am melissa francis. lori: i am lori rothman. president obama giving his pitch for the fiscal cliff. when will the rhetoric give way to a real action on our debt crisis. juan williams on when a deal can happen. melissa: how would you like to pay more at the pump? we have the new talk about raising the gas tax. what a great idea. lori: i love paying over four dollars a gallon. washington not the only one that cannot get a deal done. entering day 76. its small business that is really on then ice. melissa: time now for stocks as we do every 15 minutes. lauren simonetti. washington is playing politics over the fiscal cliff. we are near session lows right now. >> 11 points away from session lows. the dow is clinging onto that level right now. consumer discretionary is your best performing sector this month. it is lower today, as is technology. the s&p 500 trying to hang onto a monthly gain. not sure if we can do it. certainly higher for the week and nasdaq higher for the both of them. a two-day chart of yelled is really interesting. they expect fourth-quart
debt limit talks early next year. yesterday at a business round table of ceos president obama took a hard line warning his opponents not to consider this strategy. >> if congress in any way suggests they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again, as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last ye year, i will not play that game. >> i wonder. the president is saying, steve, that, you know what? we can raise rates now and maybe lower them later, next year, so republicans are now saying we'll raise rates now. maybe we'll lower them later and talk about it during debt ceiling. now he is saying no we're not going to talk about it then either. when would we have this debate, when we are renaming post offices in july? i mean -- >> clarify something for people that are watching. republicans are talking about raising taxes on the rich. john boehner said that yesterday. we're just not talking about raising the top marginal rate. right? >> right. >> both sides are now talking about
to discuss what is driving federal spending and debt and that is in title and programs. peter: we learned president obama and john boehner spoke for 15 minutes last night. i just bumped into a senior leader among senate democrats and asked him how he felt about this news and he said -- he was more optimistic about these negotiations today. he thought perhaps this man the speaker and the president were exchanging proposals on avoiding the fiscal cliff, john boehner has a press conference at 11:30 after his meeting with tim geithner. connell: we will speak with -- see what the speaker has to say. with all this back and forth, a decent amount of speculation that a deal is starting to take shape. look at the reporting from politico and they put numbers to its save a framework looks like this. taxes for revenue would rise by $1.2 trillion. families making them to $50,000 would see higher taxes which we have been expecting and entitlement programs would be cut by $400 billion, most coming for medicare and, quote, end of war savings peter barnes and others reported many times as being dubious be
? >> it is interesting if you look at the negotiations that president obama offered this massive tax increase with no concessions and this sort of outrageous request on the debt limit which was a really aggressive first offer. and then the republican s countered with a moderate reasonable plan exactly modeled after a proposal by erskine bowles. so if you're trying to handicap the negotiations, you'd have to concede that dana is on to something. >> really. so -- >> at least like the starting point. so basically the starting point for the republicans is what president obama probably would have viewed as a victory if they had the negotiation. >> yeah, he wanted another 400 supposed supposedly. how does simpson-bowles get to -- how does it raise revenue? what's the number that it raises? >> well, it depends because they have a bunch of different simpson-bowles plans. like in the bowles-simpson report, there are three different tax plans and then the thing that the republicans modeled after was something that bowles said in a hearing. >> it's interesting when you look at what these plans are laid
currency, monetize its debt. so strong structural arguments why you should buy gold in any currency. >> president obama will continue to press republicans to let tax cuts expire for people make more than $250,000 a year. reports say the president's opening wid in budget talks calls for $1.6 trillion tax increase. that plan whether he had to sharp comments from both sides of the political aisle. >> now is the time for republicans to you've past this happy talk about revenues ill defined of course and put specifics on the table. the president has made his proposal. >> what we don't know is what the white house is willing to do it get serious about solving our debt crisis. >> if more, we're joined by mark zandi, chief economist at moody's analytics who is here in london. welcome. >> thank you. >> so the fiscal cliff issue, end of the year is looming. we saw the response to this opening gambit by president obama. how likely is it that this is the final plan put forward, what elements do you expect to be most critical here as talks continue? >> i think there will be a lot of brinkmanship
as a result of the debt crisis a couple of years ago. >> stephanie: that's right. >> caller: this is where obama snookered the republican party. >> stephanie: yeah. >> they agreed to this. >> stephanie: we said that at the time and we still got downgraded because of the republicans, but you are absolutely right. >> caller: yes and grover norquist on sunday on david marshmallow's show, said that obama was going to take us over the fiscal cliff. >> stephanie: yes, and it is because of republicans. you know what the funny names for republicans, just leave that to us. [ bell chimes ] [ applause ] >> stephanie: david marshmallow. yeah. hi, bob. >> caller: good morning. i just wanted to call about the bob costas thing and just say i started shooting when i was ten year's old, and i still believe there is a place for regulation in gun control. >> stephanie: uh-huh. >> caller: and i think the people that shout the loudest don't speak for even the majority of gun owners and i think there is this trained pavlovian dog whistle, and there's no room for discussion. >> stephanie: y
president obama, we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate, and yet he keeps demanding that we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate, and yet he keeps demanding that we raise taxes to pay for more spending. this will only hurt our economy. ernst and young has done an analysis of the president's proposal and said it will cost several hundreds thousands of jobs. there is a better way and the speaker has laid it out. it is an approach that calls for tax reform by reforming the tax code and passing responsible spending cuts in order to get our fiscal house in order. that's what america wants. this is our opportunity to do the big things. this is our moment to provide that leadership that america desperately wants and we stand here ready to take the action necessary. >> the american people are hurting right now and now is the moment where we need to step up to the plate and solve the problem. cann't know how any of us look our kids and grandkids in the eye and explain to them that we aren't willing to pay for the things we are enjoying today but just going t
$250,000. >> do you support obama having the power to increase the debt limit? >> can you clarify something? when he talk about trillions of dollars in cuts , does that factor cuts in cluded in the sequester? >> in the budget control act, it calls for over $1 trillion in cuts. >> the president opposed to propose of wedlock in a certain amount for entitlement programs. do democrats support that? >> first of all, we do democrats, saw savings in medicare of over $700 billion and affordable care act. we use that money to strengthen medicare and extend its life for almost a decade and to increase benefits for seniors now. is there more opportunity for that? yes. but not at the expense of an official years. there have been all kinds of -- but not at the expense of beneficiaries. >> st. mary's hospital is a catholic institution in san francisco. should they be required to adjust to this new health plan? >> the compromise is a reasonable one. >> madame leader? >> yes. >> would you support that if it is part of the package? >> i want the middle class to get a break. i would hope we could g
and to tackle our $16 trillion debt that is driven by runaway entitlement programs. we have seen an utter lack of leadership from president obama and his allies on the left have shown very little to no willingness to tackle real structural entitlement reform. there is no manner of tax hike that can save medicare or medicaid. these programs can only be fixed with real reforms. some on the left say tinkering around the edges of medicare and medicaid would be enough, or that the health law is in touch and a perform. they argue we do not need to examine the structural problems. make no mistake about it then been shoring up medicare and medicaid will not be easy. the situation has become so severe, it is the only responsible course to take them back in just over a decade medicare will be bankrupt. medicare beneficiaries receive $3 in benefits for every $1 they pay into the system. that is while 10,000 more americans join this program every day. the number of workers supporting it has declined by over 18% over the last decade. the average family could give up its salary for the entire year, sell the
. this is about the debt. it's about the fiscal deficit. it's about our economy. it's about our future. it's about our children. and president obama is playing a very risky game. because in the end, this is his presidency. and you're going to look back and have a bar chart of deficits and debt. and there's not going to be an asterisk that says it was the republicans' fault. i think we've got to stop playing poker, work together and understand we're working to save the country. >> that might be the long game. the asterisk in history books later. right? the short gain is raising taxes. that really is what everything is focused on right now. and i think, nan, it's fair to say that could be a big problem for republicans. all polls indicate that it's going to be the republicans that hold the bag if you end up not raises taxes on people who are perceived to be very wealthy who could afford it. >> well, there is the -- there are the atmospherics and then there are the economic realities. of course, if you look at a lot of the polling surrounding the election and post election exit polling show that, in f
. they are happy because they are getting this extra money. if obama gets -- i don't have a charge card. i am paying off all my debt. we should pay off all large debt. how much are we paying for this debt that we go? that is a waste. why should anyone else do it? congress.s stick with here is "the washington times" -- look for our coverage on c-span2 for the senate floor proceedings. yesterday, a headline in "the washington times" -- president obama sending out this tweet -- then, she took to twitter to respond, saying -- that conversation happened on twitter yesterday between the two of them. also in other news on capitol hill, a republican congresswoman from missouri is quitting congress after her most recent reelection to come an energy ceo. the district covers all of southeast missouri. 62, at the first woman office in mike in washington,an independent caller, what are your thoughts on this? caller: you know, i have my doubts about a lot of things these days. one thing i wanted to mention is every time we have a situation where there was going to be a government shutdown, they put the fea
on with this fiscal cliff. it's time to pay. it's not the republican party's fault. obama has been in office four years. he has doubled to the trillions of dollars in debt. host: are you a tea party supporter? caller: i'm not affiliated with the tea party, but i am tired of hearing them blame it, because i see the hard-working generation that are in their 60s that paid in and they are saying enough is enough, we are tired of you taking it out of our wallets. we are tired of crazy liberal laws being shoved down our throats. our rights are being taken away from us day after day and we are like zombies in this country. host: sumter, south carolina, william, a democrat. we're listening to your thoughts this morning on open phones. caller: i am a new listener and a veteran. i am trying to figure out what's going on. when people see that the fiscal cliff and all this other stuff i am trying to understand, how it came about, it was from all the money being spent on war. and i wanted to mention about the veterans. we are the backbone of this country in a sense. that's what they need to focus on more. hos
for not 52 weeks but one week alone. the tax increases that president obama is now trying to push through will really do almost nothing to reduce our national deficit and nothing to reduce our national debt. the white house and democrats in the senate are focused only on tax hikes while they continue ignoring the real drivers of our debt, which is the out-of-control entitlement programs -- social security, medicare, and medicaid. until we find a way to do meaningful entitlement reform, no amount of tax revenue will be able to match the increase in violate spending. -- in entitlement spending. the president continues in his campaign mode going around the country to try to sell his tax hikes. the president and the democrats in congress are willing to go over the fiscal cliff in order to get those tax hikes. rather than negotiate in good faith, they're willing to try to spend their time trying to convince the american people that it's just someone else's fault. going over the fiscal cliff will mean another recession, and this one is squarely on the shoulders of president obama. it will mean
. >> shannon: who will blink first? the obama administration says the ball is in the g.o.p.'s court. republicans insist it's the president's turn to get serious about dealing with our country's debt. >> it's unfortunate that the white house spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> this is a very carefully designed set of reforms. if republicans would like to go beyond these reforms, or they want to do it differently, they should tell us how they want to do it. >> i believe raising tax rates hurts our economy, hurts the prospects for more jobs in our country. >> shannon: as the sparring continues over the fiscal cliff, neither boehner nor geithner can say for certain that the country will not go over the edge. i'm shannon bream. america's news headquarters live from the nation's capital starts right now. >> shannon: we want to get to the budget standoff. peter doocy joins us live. there is time to strike a deal but not a lot. >> reporter: that's right. the speaker of the house john boehner made a point today to say there is not much time between election day and the end of the y
to be deadlocked. president obama released his plan. it includes 1.6 trillion dollars in new tax increases. 50 billion in new stimulus spending. and stimulus, and new power to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval. tim geithner, john boehner appearing with chris wallace on fox news sunday. >> we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. we put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to get this question resolved but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. they have actually asked for more revenue than they have been asking the whole entire time. >> in kind of a tough position now. it is going to be, obviously a little hard for them now. they're trying to figure out where they go next. we might need to give them a little more time to let them go next. we did what you expect from us. we laid out a very detailed, carefully designed set of spending savings and tax changes that help put us back on a path to fiscal responsibility. bill: where are we now? senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendell goler on the north lawn. wendell, has either side
: jim sigler is his name-- jim senegal. >> a big obama supporter and his company sped up the dividend payout. stuart: and they borrowed the money, 3 1/2 billion dollars in order to make the $7 per share dividend payout. and somebody downgraded their debt because of that. >> oh, see, now the plot thickens, that doesn't sound good. stuart: it's called hipocracy, that's just mine coming out there. and and dead flat at the opening. the head of the cheesecake factory he says that obamacare will be very costly for small businesses. they will either have to pass the costs along to their customers or cheapen the product, heaven forbid and david overton, i'm quoting now, for those businesses that do not cover their employees, they will be in for a very expensive situation. the price of cheesecake factory up so far this year, down almost 3%, back to 33. the irs is about to release 159 pages of new tax rules, tax rules that will help pay for obamacare. they include, a 3.8% sur tax on investment income of all kinds on upper income people starting next year and .9% health care tax on wages for the
fight. >> president obama, democrats in congress have ever been ambiguous, provide economic security for 90% of american families and 97% of small businesses asking the wealthiest 2% to contribute just a little more to stop this runaway debt. >> what the president is really interested in as we learned just yesterday he is getting as much taxpayer money as he can first by raising taxes on small business that he believes are making too much money and then on everybody else. >> there is movement on these talks and president obama and john boehner spoke on the phone days after republicans offered a hundred billion dollars of tax revenue. republicans say they're waiting on a counteroffer from the white house. back to you. dennis: should republicans hold out and let us go over the fiscal click? john brown of euro pacific capital is with us and former adviser to british prime minister margaret thatcher and he joins us with his take. thanks for being with us. do you think we are going over the cliff? >> cliff of sorts. the fiscal cliff was created by politicians who lack the courage to do th
to the edge of the fiscal cliff. and house republicans had harsh words for president obama after he released a budget proposal suggesting more taxes, more spending. >> he wants the power to raise the debt ceiling without congressional approval and they cannot issue an edict like a monarchy, congress, congress, congress is in charge of the purse. the government has gone wild. >> dave: in that congressman's words has they become a monarchy, explaining from texas, congressman poe. >> good morning, dave. >> dave: how has this administration become like a monarchy? >> well, the president in his proposal basically said, turn everything over to me, give me the power or let me take the power to raise the debt ceiling, that seems to be quite arrogant on his part and if he's serious about it, they be what he's really saying is, i want to spend more money. that's how i want to solve the fiscal cliff problem, is spending more taxpayer money. so, the president doesn't have the authority to raise the debt ceiling, he shouldn't have the authority. congress, as you all mentioned earlier is in charge of the
illuminate what's going on right now? >> well, they started out last year when they were working on the debt ceiling, and they had what are calledded the merlot and nicorette's meetings. in other words, boehner would have a merlot, and obama would chew nicorette. >> you point outside in the book somehow when they took the official photo, both of those vanished. >> yes. they had iced tea there for obama. of course, boehner had his seg represent, and they put the cigarette in the ashtray away for the picture, but they have not closed the deal on the personal relations, and that's a shame. i think if somebody, instead of sponsoring your breakfast and all, sponsor a weekly dinner between obama and boehner and everyone would agree to pay for it and let them just talk and get to know each other and see, you know, it's -- >> how much -- >> oh, that's right. what do you think? >> i think that's a great idea. [inaudible] a special room. >> i'm not sure -- [inaudible] >> yeah, okay, but, well, you know, but, i, you know, personal relationships, when john was the fbi spokensman, he was not helpful, but
's no budging on either side. >> they said there was a lot of support there. president obama said i'm sticking to my guns also. the president is warning the republicans next move will be to use the upcoming vote on the debt ceiling as leverage in the budget battle. let's listen. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, which by the way we have never done in our history until we did it last year, i will not play that game. >> i will not play that game. >> yes. >> is that something republicans are considering, and if so, i guess how would the white house respond? although i guess we're seeing a little bit of it there. >> i think you clearly see how the president would respond. this is where the question of leverage comes in to play. he came out of the election, he says that he ran on this issue of raising tax rates on wealthy. he believes he is very much the leverage in this negotiation and so you don't see him budging. republicans see the little levers that they
the footage of durbin and boehner, i thought it was footage from the debt ceiling argument. >> but isn't the better alternative which is to see all the tax cuts he e s expire? >> how will he pass the massive obama tax cut without the house? >> i'm assuming they'd want to have a big tax cut, right? >> no. >> they would sit on their hands post-january 1st and say nothing? >> do you think republicans are so stupid in the house they don't see that move coming and say, you know what? you go ahead and you try to pass your tax cut through harry reid's senate, and we'll pass our tax cut through the house. and good luck. >> so they would just rather have everyone's tax -- i'm shock that that would be the end result. >> harry reid would rather have it his way or nobody's way? >> no, i'm saying you can negotiate in these flex three weeks about this package of tax cuts. >> i don't mean this to be directed towards you -- >> but here it comes. >> -- no, i'm just saying generally, there is such an arrogance in the media since the president won. they think that these house republicans are -- >> have n
. the president is very focus odden that. >> just a second ago, you referred to, when talking about the debt ceiling, taking it off the table, to be part of the deal. you referred to the economy being held hostage. you're aware that president obama voted against -- >> we addressed that. there was no threat of default at the time. what happened in 2011, as we all know because we all lived it, most of us in this room, was the threat of default, a willingness expressed by many to see the american economy under default and with all the consequent impacts on the global economy and on the american middle class. . in order to do that and was enormously damaging to consumer confidence. we were downgraded famously and it is a testament to the american people and the american economy and the american business and some of the success we have had working with the congress that we have been able to rebound and the economy continues to grow and create jobs but that was a self-inflicted wound and we can't have that nonsense anymore. >> ok for people to engage in that kind of nonsense -- >> i appreciate the
obama's going to speak to the business round table today about the ongoing fiscal cliff talks. boeing ceo jim mcnearney says members want a balanced solution in debt issues, including meaningful and comprehensive tax and entitlement reforms. well, you're not going to get that. anyway -- sorry, jim. we're going to be watching facebook stock today. the company will join the nasdaq -- got to watch it. i'm trying to rise. trying. the nasdaq 100 -- >> sinking, sinking -- >> like a snake. replaces tech firm emphasis, which is moving the listing to the big board. and let's get a check on the markets which are indicated higher today up about 50 points. overseas, let's check out asia and europe. there's a -- .4%. >> had a big move. >> yeah. big move on the hang seng and green arrows everywhere. let's check out europe quickly. also fractional gains there, up about a third of a point each. >>> steny hoyer is striking a conciliatory tone saying both sides will need to bend to avoid the fiscal cliff. congressman hoyer joins us from washington with more this morning, and sir, it's great to see you.
is a key part of these solutions. president obama has made it clear that his preference is to raise taxes on families and businesses, but that plan won't fix our national debt. it won't improve the economy. instead, congress should focus on tax reform and real significant spending reductions. the american people have chosen divided government, and with that comes a responsibility for us to work together and to fix the pro-our nation faces. i -- the problem our nation faces. i ask my colleagues to help resolve this fiscal crisis and do what's best for the american people. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from pennsylvania is recognized for one minute. mr. altmire: mr. speaker, many of the challenges congress will face during the ongoing negotiations over the fiscal cliff is whether or not to renew the wind production tax credit which expires at the end of this year. investing in re
? >> just a second ago, you referred to how the debt ceiling, taking it off the table, needs to be part of the deal. you referred to the economy, you called held hostage by the ideological team. you were aware of this, senator obama was against -- >> we addressed that. there was no threat of default at the time. what happened in 2011, as we know, what happened, we lived it, most of us in this room, was the threat of default, a willingness expressed on the record and publicly by numerous members of congress to see the american's economy, and under defort, and with all of the consequent impacts on the global economy and the american middle class in order to achieve some sort of political victory that was driven by ideology and partisanship, enormously damaging to the economy, to consumer confidence. we were downgrades famously, and it is a testament to the american people and the american economy, the american business, and some of the success we have had working with congress that we have been able to rebound and the economy continues to grow and create jobs, but the fact is that was a s
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